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I agree with previous thoughts that there are questions to be answered regarding the first question. For equality, I think if the tiger is alive, then the foot is probably still attached, because Rhett’s right, otherwise it’s too easy. And if the foots not attached, then the hungry tiger is probably like the lion on “Secondhand lions.” I concur with the earlier sentiment that cannibalism’s not the answer. I think I’d try my luck with the tiger, maybe throw in some of those “Worst case scenario” ideas. I’d likely lose, but that’s better than finding out I like people and finding myself in another cage years down the road saying “Hello, Clarice.”
And while we’re quoting movies, “Memento” is a good one for the second question. The protagonist has can only hold new memories for 5 minutes (thus not remembering those he’s met recently), and he gets misled and put into horrible situations throughout the movie (my favorite moment being, “Am I chasing this guy or is he chasing me?”) I’m with Rhett on this one: though I won’t remember the details of myself, I will know parts of my identity by knowing those around me. I might not know that I’m in love with my wife, but by knowing my wife, I’ll know to love her. Either option is sad, but I feel forgetting everyone would be extremely lonely (and frightening.. “who is this? Can I trust them? Should I know them?”) I’d chose to forget myself; but I would try to place myself near those I know I can trust.
This really is a very perplexing question, and I have a few thoughts about it.
If I forgot who everyone else is, I kind of wonder if I would still really know who I am, because my life is built so much around the family/relative relationships that I have. Forgetting all these people would leave huge gaps in my awareness of who I am, so if I forgot who they all were…..would I really still have a clear idea of who I am?
On the flip side, if I forgot who I am, it seems strange that I would still know who everyone else is. I guess we’re talking selective amnesia, forgetting things only pertaining to myself? But really, if I forgot who I am, wouldn’t forgetting who everyone else is be part of that? All of the memories I have that tell me who I am as a person, these memories include other people…so if I forgot who I am, I would obviously forget these memories….and so wouldn’t I also forget who everyone else is?
Maybe I’m looking at it a smidge different than everyone else, but I kind of feel like both choices would pretty much end up with the same result, you wouldn’t know yourself and you ALSO wouldn’t know who anyone else was. No matter the exact details though, I think I would rather forget who I am, and here is the reason:
Just because I forget who I am, doesn’t mean the people around me will forget. And they would help me become me again…
This really got me thinking but only for a short while
You see I came to realize one thing … if you forget someone, that means you don’t know that person … and that ultimately means, you don’t get to miss that person cause you don’t know him [already] to begin with. Do I make sense?
Well, to answer the question. I would rather forget everyone else.
Why, two reasons:
1) Since I forgot about them then I don’t know them from Adam therefore I won’t miss them which eliminates emotional impact.
2) Since the other option, forgetting myself, entails that I will be at the mercy of the “others”, then that would create a different me. This essentially means that I just killed off myself and resurrected a new and “improved?” me….. and this I don’t want.
Hehehe anyone else notice Link talking over his shoulder at 1:01 to 1:06? Or has Rhett started hearing voices in his head… Here is a thought that Rhett might want to consider (I always tell my co-workers):
There is nothing wrong with talking to yourself. In fact, that is the only way to ensure that intelligent conversation is made. However, you are in trouble when you interrupt yourself…
Loophold to the 1st WYR question: does the tiger/ lion have to be alive? Because if it is a dead animal, then I would pick that over cannibalism.
I would rather forget who am becuase maybe I would end up thinking I’m someone cooler than I am…like someone famous or some kind of genius or something. Haha. I could make up whatever I wanted. =P
I normally don’t write in run-on sentence, but I was so excited to share with you the etymology of the phrase “hold the fort” that I completely forgot to use proper punctuation. I am so embarrassed. (Said like Grover in “The Monster at the End of This Book.”)
“Hold the fort” actually came about in the middle ages. There was a lot of war back then and dissidence, and people captured places that didn’t actually belong to them, in order that they could maintain, or hold, that place (or fort) they actually released gas, cooled it down so that it clung to surfaces, thereby rendering the location uninhabitable by others. Much like with any phrase that has been passed through the ages, letters have changed from “cold the fart” to “hold the fort.” Isn’t it amazing how much authenticity we lose over time?
And I would rather eat the foot if I could forget who I was afterwards.
To me it sounds a lot like what I already do. Google for Prosopagnosia. It means that when someone walks up to me outside of where I normally see them, I’ve forgotten who they are. I don’t recognize them at all. That even applies to my children and my wife if I’ve been separated from them for a while. Now, I know their whole history and can reconnect with that, but I have to be told who they are or get a clue from conversations.
I’ve had room mates from previous semesters that I don’t recognize. There are ppl I’ve gone to church with for 6 years that I’ve thought was a new visitor that Sunday.
So.. for me.. the question is… would I eat a fried foot to get rid of this?
Well I don’t know… It is very useful for TV shows and movies. I don’t see actors as actors playing a different role because I never recognize them except by voice.. That’s pretty cool and I might hate to give that up…
Honestly, I would hate to forget everyone around me, that would be like losing everyone, yet, them still being there.
Then again, if I were to forget who I am, and then try and get my family to help me find my identity again, they could then shape me into whatever they wanted. Which I would also hate, because then I would truly lose my identity.
But to both of them, when you forget something you forget is consciously, not subconsciously, your subconscious mind in theory can still remember things from early childhood, whereas your conscious memory can only remember certain things most from the recent past, or if not that, then very important happenings.
So overall, I would have to say, that I would rather be trapped in a tiger cage because I know how to handle that sort of thing. And with my forgetting, I would much rather forget myself and be able to trust my family to help me out, versus completely losing them in a mental sense.
As for holding down the fort, well, I had to figure out:
: : The correct phrase is “hold the fort” – there’s no “down”.
: : Since the Middle Ages “hold” in a military context has meant, “to keep forcibly against an adversary; defend; occupy”. If the commander of a fort decided to take some of his forces to make a foray against the enemy, he would always have to leave some of his men in charge of a reliable officer to hold the fort against any possible attack while they were away. (VSD)
: “Hold down the fort” is a variation. The original use of the phrase “hold the fort” was a military order wired by Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman in 1864 to Gen. John M. Corse at Allatoona during the Civil War. “Records show that the actual words had been ‘Hold out, relief is coming,’ but ‘fort’ is what caught on and was further popularized when it was made the refrain of a gospel song by Philip Paul Bliss.” From “Facts on File Dictionary of Cliches,” second edition, edited by Christine Ammer, Checkmark Books, New York, 2006. Page 202.
In regard to your question about “Holding down the fort”, I did some research and this is what I came up with: “The expression “Hold down the fort” is shopkeeper slang for “take over for a minute or two” possibly dating from the European “discovery” of the world, when shops and forts were the same thing, and holding the fort would mean not allowing the trading post to fall victim to hostile outsiders or to internal lawlessness.”
“You hold down the fort” was one of my favorite and most endearing phrase from my dear old Dad. Ahh, brings back memorires!
I forget myself everyday around 5:00 pm (with Bourbon)….
I agree with previous thoughts that there are questions to be answered regarding the first question. For equality, I think if the tiger is alive, then the foot is probably still attached, because Rhett’s right, otherwise it’s too easy. And if the foots not attached, then the hungry tiger is probably like the lion on “Secondhand lions.” I concur with the earlier sentiment that cannibalism’s not the answer. I think I’d try my luck with the tiger, maybe throw in some of those “Worst case scenario” ideas. I’d likely lose, but that’s better than finding out I like people and finding myself in another cage years down the road saying “Hello, Clarice.”
And while we’re quoting movies, “Memento” is a good one for the second question. The protagonist has can only hold new memories for 5 minutes (thus not remembering those he’s met recently), and he gets misled and put into horrible situations throughout the movie (my favorite moment being, “Am I chasing this guy or is he chasing me?”) I’m with Rhett on this one: though I won’t remember the details of myself, I will know parts of my identity by knowing those around me. I might not know that I’m in love with my wife, but by knowing my wife, I’ll know to love her. Either option is sad, but I feel forgetting everyone would be extremely lonely (and frightening.. “who is this? Can I trust them? Should I know them?”) I’d chose to forget myself; but I would try to place myself near those I know I can trust.
This really is a very perplexing question, and I have a few thoughts about it.
If I forgot who everyone else is, I kind of wonder if I would still really know who I am, because my life is built so much around the family/relative relationships that I have. Forgetting all these people would leave huge gaps in my awareness of who I am, so if I forgot who they all were…..would I really still have a clear idea of who I am?
On the flip side, if I forgot who I am, it seems strange that I would still know who everyone else is. I guess we’re talking selective amnesia, forgetting things only pertaining to myself? But really, if I forgot who I am, wouldn’t forgetting who everyone else is be part of that? All of the memories I have that tell me who I am as a person, these memories include other people…so if I forgot who I am, I would obviously forget these memories….and so wouldn’t I also forget who everyone else is?
Maybe I’m looking at it a smidge different than everyone else, but I kind of feel like both choices would pretty much end up with the same result, you wouldn’t know yourself and you ALSO wouldn’t know who anyone else was. No matter the exact details though, I think I would rather forget who I am, and here is the reason:
Just because I forget who I am, doesn’t mean the people around me will forget. And they would help me become me again…
So that’s my thoughts on it.
This really got me thinking but only for a short while
You see I came to realize one thing … if you forget someone, that means you don’t know that person … and that ultimately means, you don’t get to miss that person cause you don’t know him [already] to begin with. Do I make sense?
Well, to answer the question. I would rather forget everyone else.
Why, two reasons:
1) Since I forgot about them then I don’t know them from Adam therefore I won’t miss them which eliminates emotional impact.
2) Since the other option, forgetting myself, entails that I will be at the mercy of the “others”, then that would create a different me. This essentially means that I just killed off myself and resurrected a new and “improved?” me….. and this I don’t want.
I think I would rather forget who I am. You stated it perfectly too as to why one should rather forget themselves.
Hehehe anyone else notice Link talking over his shoulder at 1:01 to 1:06? Or has Rhett started hearing voices in his head… Here is a thought that Rhett might want to consider (I always tell my co-workers):
There is nothing wrong with talking to yourself. In fact, that is the only way to ensure that intelligent conversation is made. However, you are in trouble when you interrupt yourself…
Loophold to the 1st WYR question: does the tiger/ lion have to be alive? Because if it is a dead animal, then I would pick that over cannibalism.
I would rather forget who am becuase maybe I would end up thinking I’m someone cooler than I am…like someone famous or some kind of genius or something. Haha. I could make up whatever I wanted. =P
I normally don’t write in run-on sentence, but I was so excited to share with you the etymology of the phrase “hold the fort” that I completely forgot to use proper punctuation. I am so embarrassed. (Said like Grover in “The Monster at the End of This Book.”)
“Hold the fort” actually came about in the middle ages. There was a lot of war back then and dissidence, and people captured places that didn’t actually belong to them, in order that they could maintain, or hold, that place (or fort) they actually released gas, cooled it down so that it clung to surfaces, thereby rendering the location uninhabitable by others. Much like with any phrase that has been passed through the ages, letters have changed from “cold the fart” to “hold the fort.” Isn’t it amazing how much authenticity we lose over time?
And I would rather eat the foot if I could forget who I was afterwards.
To me it sounds a lot like what I already do. Google for Prosopagnosia. It means that when someone walks up to me outside of where I normally see them, I’ve forgotten who they are. I don’t recognize them at all. That even applies to my children and my wife if I’ve been separated from them for a while. Now, I know their whole history and can reconnect with that, but I have to be told who they are or get a clue from conversations.
I’ve had room mates from previous semesters that I don’t recognize. There are ppl I’ve gone to church with for 6 years that I’ve thought was a new visitor that Sunday.
So.. for me.. the question is… would I eat a fried foot to get rid of this?
Well I don’t know… It is very useful for TV shows and movies. I don’t see actors as actors playing a different role because I never recognize them except by voice.. That’s pretty cool and I might hate to give that up…
Honestly, I would hate to forget everyone around me, that would be like losing everyone, yet, them still being there.
Then again, if I were to forget who I am, and then try and get my family to help me find my identity again, they could then shape me into whatever they wanted. Which I would also hate, because then I would truly lose my identity.
But to both of them, when you forget something you forget is consciously, not subconsciously, your subconscious mind in theory can still remember things from early childhood, whereas your conscious memory can only remember certain things most from the recent past, or if not that, then very important happenings.
So overall, I would have to say, that I would rather be trapped in a tiger cage because I know how to handle that sort of thing. And with my forgetting, I would much rather forget myself and be able to trust my family to help me out, versus completely losing them in a mental sense.
As for holding down the fort, well, I had to figure out:
: : The correct phrase is “hold the fort” – there’s no “down”.
: : Since the Middle Ages “hold” in a military context has meant, “to keep forcibly against an adversary; defend; occupy”. If the commander of a fort decided to take some of his forces to make a foray against the enemy, he would always have to leave some of his men in charge of a reliable officer to hold the fort against any possible attack while they were away. (VSD)
: “Hold down the fort” is a variation. The original use of the phrase “hold the fort” was a military order wired by Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman in 1864 to Gen. John M. Corse at Allatoona during the Civil War. “Records show that the actual words had been ‘Hold out, relief is coming,’ but ‘fort’ is what caught on and was further popularized when it was made the refrain of a gospel song by Philip Paul Bliss.” From “Facts on File Dictionary of Cliches,” second edition, edited by Christine Ammer, Checkmark Books, New York, 2006. Page 202.
The last thing I say to my family before leaving my house is, “Okay, folks, I’ll be back in a bit…hold down the fort!”
As for the WYR question…I think I would rather forget who I am and rely on my loved ones to help me rediscover who I am.
In regard to your question about “Holding down the fort”, I did some research and this is what I came up with: “The expression “Hold down the fort” is shopkeeper slang for “take over for a minute or two” possibly dating from the European “discovery” of the world, when shops and forts were the same thing, and holding the fort would mean not allowing the trading post to fall victim to hostile outsiders or to internal lawlessness.”
Hope that helped! :]